wireless network question

figment · 01-23-2008, 02:37 PM

I have a guest wireless network and a private WN. The guest NW SID is broadcast and the private is not. I tried to change the connection order and the guest network remained persistently at the top of the list. I could not even DELETE it. I ended up mangling the TKIP password to stop registering to it.

Anyone know about how to correctly accomplish network order and deletion in wireless preferences?

Geek · 01-23-2008, 04:51 PM

Are you running Leopard?

by the way.

figment · 01-23-2008, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Geek

Are you running Leopard?

by the way.

thank you yes, leopard...

Geek · 01-23-2008, 07:50 PM

I'll let one of the more experienced guys take a whack at it but my best guess is that it's taking the path of least resistance?!

ccwilli has noticed some unusual bugs on his install of Leopard as far as settings not sticking. Perhaps you're having some of the same troubles.

sheepofblue · 01-23-2008, 10:01 PM

Interesting I only have the one so it is at the top. But you can go to the wireless pane in Networks and click the pencil which should allow you to delete it. Also do you have the wireless icon in your toolbar? This would not cure it but would make the switch trivial. Sorry not much else I can say without being there.

Geek · 01-27-2008, 08:24 PM

I recently started using my wireless again since upgrading to Leopard and I'm having similar issues. I only have one SSID and it's not broadcasted. 9 out of 10 times it won't reconnect to the network after coming out of hibernation unless I turn the NIC off and then back on.

Methinks it's a bug.

figment · 01-30-2008, 03:00 AM

could be... When I close the lid on both my laptops, 9 out of ten times I have to hold the power key and hard reset them to get the OS back.

sheepofblue · 01-30-2008, 10:54 AM

Interesting I have heard none of this before and have no issue (but I do have a PowerBook not intel..)

Couple of things that may help:
Leopard Bug - Can’t Wake Up from Sleep inconsistency
This is basically deleting the power management preferences (may be corrupted)

Apple - Support - Discussions - Problems in waking from sleep ...

Long thread but you may find something like yours. I noticed the drive attached thing. Are your drives set to power off before the screen? It maybe that your drive is not waking...

Geek · 02-09-2008, 09:49 AM

Not sure what changed but my issues seem to have gone away. I've installed some updates recently but I can't remember if any of them addressed anything with the wireless.

figment · 05-18-2008, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by figment

could be... When I close the lid on both my laptops, 9 out of ten times I have to hold the power key and hard reset them to get the OS back.

I finally figured this out. I'm surprised at apple for this one

If the battery is low, below some percentage, the system will not power back on after you close the lid until you hook it back up to the charger.

figment · 05-18-2008, 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by figment

I have a guest wireless network and a private WN. The guest NW SID is broadcast and the private is not. I tried to change the connection order and the guest network remained persistently at the top of the list. I could not even DELETE it. I ended up mangling the TKIP password to stop registering to it.

Anyone know about how to correctly accomplish network order and deletion in wireless preferences?

this is still aggravating me. On a PC I can specify the network SSID order. With my Mac, I have to mangle the password for it to ignore the SSID I dont want to connect.

Geek · 05-19-2008, 07:49 AM

You can set the preference. Open Network Preferences, click on Airport and then click on Advanced. It'll show a list of your Preferred Networks where you can set the preference.

figment · 05-20-2008, 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Geek

You can set the preference. Open Network Preferences, click on Airport and then click on Advanced. It'll show a list of your Preferred Networks where you can set the preference.

this does not work. The order does not persist.

figment · 05-20-2008, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by figment

this does not work. The order does not persist.

well, after the last update, it seems to be staying in the order I specified

figment · 05-27-2008, 01:45 PM

hmm, this morning the dang thing was out of the order I specified AGAIN.

It's seriously brokey broke broke. Also, I don't see how to look a signal strengths...

Geek · 05-27-2008, 01:48 PM

Signal strength will only show once you're already connected. To look at it before hand you'll need a third party utility such as iStumbler: iStumbler 98

sheepofblue · 05-27-2008, 07:03 PM

Another advantage of iStumbler is that if you have a neighbor that is on your channel you can spot them. Especially one that shuts his router off and on. Mine swapped channels onto me. I could not figure out why sometimes it rocked and other times it was sooo lame until I fired up iStumbler and saw the toad on my channel.

figment · 05-28-2008, 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Geek

Signal strength will only show once you're already connected. To look at it before hand you'll need a third party utility such as iStumbler: iStumbler 98

once you're connected, how do you see it?

Geek · 05-28-2008, 05:05 PM

Look at the wireless icon on your menu bar. There are 4 bars. If they're all dark that means you have full signal. If only some of them are dark then you have a weak(er) signal. It doesn't give you percentages but at least it's something.

Geek · 05-28-2008, 05:06 PM

BTW, 10.5.3 was just released today and they mention fixes to the wireless.

About the Mac OS X 10.5.3 Update

figment · 05-28-2008, 05:13 PM

thank you too many

sheepofblue · 05-28-2008, 07:23 PM

Specifically for 'N' I think also...

Geek · 06-06-2008, 12:05 PM

Now I'm having trouble since upgrading to 10.5.3

It'll connect for a split second, then drop off and I have to go manually add the network back in. Having some issues with the external keyboard being recognized after a reboot/cold boot, too.

01-23-2008, 02:37 PM	#1
figment Registered Member Join Date: 01-23-2008 Location: St Paul, Texas Age: 50 Posts: 62	wireless network question I have a guest wireless network and a private WN. The guest NW SID is broadcast and the private is not. I tried to change the connection order and the guest network remained persistently at the top of the list. I could not even DELETE it. I ended up mangling the TKIP password to stop registering to it. Anyone know about how to correctly accomplish network order and deletion in wireless preferences?

01-23-2008, 04:51 PM	#2
Geek 's make the world go 'round. Join Date: 01-02-2007 Location: SC Posts: 886	Re: wireless network question Are you running Leopard? by the way. __________________ "People should not be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of their people" Motorcycle fanatic?

01-23-2008, 07:50 PM	#4
Geek 's make the world go 'round. Join Date: 01-02-2007 Location: SC Posts: 886	Re: wireless network question I'll let one of the more experienced guys take a whack at it but my best guess is that it's taking the path of least resistance?! ccwilli has noticed some unusual bugs on his install of Leopard as far as settings not sticking. Perhaps you're having some of the same troubles. __________________ "People should not be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of their people" Motorcycle fanatic?

01-23-2008, 10:01 PM	#5
sheepofblue The new economic plan Join Date: 01-03-2007 Location: Huntsville Age: 46 Posts: 495	Re: wireless network question Interesting I only have the one so it is at the top. But you can go to the wireless pane in Networks and click the pencil which should allow you to delete it. Also do you have the wireless icon in your toolbar? This would not cure it but would make the switch trivial. Sorry not much else I can say without being there. __________________ A man who carries a cat by the tail learns something he can learn in no other way

01-27-2008, 08:24 PM	#6
Geek 's make the world go 'round. Join Date: 01-02-2007 Location: SC Posts: 886	Re: wireless network question I recently started using my wireless again since upgrading to Leopard and I'm having similar issues. I only have one SSID and it's not broadcasted. 9 out of 10 times it won't reconnect to the network after coming out of hibernation unless I turn the NIC off and then back on. Methinks it's a bug. __________________ "People should not be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of their people" Motorcycle fanatic?

01-30-2008, 03:00 AM	#7
figment Registered Member Join Date: 01-23-2008 Location: St Paul, Texas Age: 50 Posts: 62	Re: wireless network question could be... When I close the lid on both my laptops, 9 out of ten times I have to hold the power key and hard reset them to get the OS back.

01-30-2008, 10:54 AM	#8
sheepofblue The new economic plan Join Date: 01-03-2007 Location: Huntsville Age: 46 Posts: 495	Re: wireless network question Interesting I have heard none of this before and have no issue (but I do have a PowerBook not intel..) Couple of things that may help: Leopard Bug - Can’t Wake Up from Sleep inconsistency This is basically deleting the power management preferences (may be corrupted) Apple - Support - Discussions - Problems in waking from sleep ... Long thread but you may find something like yours. I noticed the drive attached thing. Are your drives set to power off before the screen? It maybe that your drive is not waking... __________________ A man who carries a cat by the tail learns something he can learn in no other way Last edited by sheepofblue; 01-30-2008 at 11:00 AM..

02-09-2008, 09:49 AM	#9
Geek 's make the world go 'round. Join Date: 01-02-2007 Location: SC Posts: 886	Re: wireless network question Not sure what changed but my issues seem to have gone away. I've installed some updates recently but I can't remember if any of them addressed anything with the wireless. __________________ "People should not be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of their people" Motorcycle fanatic?

05-19-2008, 07:49 AM	#12
Geek 's make the world go 'round. Join Date: 01-02-2007 Location: SC Posts: 886	Re: wireless network question You can set the preference. Open Network Preferences, click on Airport and then click on Advanced. It'll show a list of your Preferred Networks where you can set the preference. __________________ "People should not be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of their people" Motorcycle fanatic?

05-27-2008, 01:45 PM	#15
figment Registered Member Join Date: 01-23-2008 Location: St Paul, Texas Age: 50 Posts: 62	Re: wireless network question hmm, this morning the dang thing was out of the order I specified AGAIN. It's seriously brokey broke broke. Also, I don't see how to look a signal strengths...

05-27-2008, 01:48 PM	#16
Geek 's make the world go 'round. Join Date: 01-02-2007 Location: SC Posts: 886	Re: wireless network question Signal strength will only show once you're already connected. To look at it before hand you'll need a third party utility such as iStumbler: iStumbler 98 __________________ "People should not be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of their people" Motorcycle fanatic?

05-27-2008, 07:03 PM	#17
sheepofblue The new economic plan Join Date: 01-03-2007 Location: Huntsville Age: 46 Posts: 495	Re: wireless network question Another advantage of iStumbler is that if you have a neighbor that is on your channel you can spot them. Especially one that shuts his router off and on. Mine swapped channels onto me. I could not figure out why sometimes it rocked and other times it was sooo lame until I fired up iStumbler and saw the toad on my channel. __________________ A man who carries a cat by the tail learns something he can learn in no other way

05-28-2008, 05:05 PM	#19
Geek 's make the world go 'round. Join Date: 01-02-2007 Location: SC Posts: 886	Re: wireless network question Look at the wireless icon on your menu bar. There are 4 bars. If they're all dark that means you have full signal. If only some of them are dark then you have a weak(er) signal. It doesn't give you percentages but at least it's something. __________________ "People should not be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of their people" Motorcycle fanatic? Last edited by Geek; 05-28-2008 at 05:41 PM.. Reason: Can't count

05-28-2008, 05:06 PM	#20
Geek 's make the world go 'round. Join Date: 01-02-2007 Location: SC Posts: 886	Re: wireless network question BTW, 10.5.3 was just released today and they mention fixes to the wireless. About the Mac OS X 10.5.3 Update __________________ "People should not be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of their people" Motorcycle fanatic?

05-28-2008, 05:13 PM	#21
figment Registered Member Join Date: 01-23-2008 Location: St Paul, Texas Age: 50 Posts: 62	Re: wireless network question thank you too many

05-28-2008, 07:23 PM	#22
sheepofblue The new economic plan Join Date: 01-03-2007 Location: Huntsville Age: 46 Posts: 495	Re: wireless network question Specifically for 'N' I think also... __________________ A man who carries a cat by the tail learns something he can learn in no other way

06-06-2008, 12:05 PM	#23
Geek 's make the world go 'round. Join Date: 01-02-2007 Location: SC Posts: 886	Re: wireless network question Now I'm having trouble since upgrading to 10.5.3 It'll connect for a split second, then drop off and I have to go manually add the network back in. Having some issues with the external keyboard being recognized after a reboot/cold boot, too. __________________ "People should not be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of their people" Motorcycle fanatic?

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